Friday, February 27, 2009



Bretboudi is not a spammer. We know spammers! They appear as friends and then try to hurt us from inside! These are well-known style and technique of Zio-Nazis!!

--- In, John Robinson wrote:


..before the bombardment of european zionists..

You hit the nail on the HEAD with this statement...!

--- In, "bretboudi" wrote:


--- In, "kreplach_oy"

as we can see these bogus justifications! 1920? well arabs have always been a vast majority for a 1000 yrs until the european jews started immigrating in the late 1800's... prior to that it was never eastern european dominated... never... 6% of arab jews lived in palestine in peace.....before the bombardment of European zionists..with the intention to kill and expell arabs to create a state for themselves and to maintain the majority with jews from other nations... these are the facts world wide...

even the racist minister from moldova is not even a native born israeli and has more rights then palestinians expelled from what we call israel today.. and he wants to expell native israeli arabs as needed if they are not loyal! try that in the states!... a moldovian? go figure!... again israel is a pure racist state period.....

--- In, "bretboudi" wrote:


hi jodie! nice to hear from you! again this guy pops up all over lol! and accuses people to be "jew haters" who are not alined with his views about the zionist racist state of he has his own groups that he censors like communism and hardly no members due to the fact he will boot or pre monitor people to join... i sence he is from the oulawed kahane group that even israel banned!..

hang in their my dear :) your group is great!



--- In, "Jodie" wrote:


Hi Bret,

Nice to hear from you again., and thanks for the information. I understand now. I hope you are doing well. I'm "hangin in."


--- In, "bretboudi" wrote:


>Hi Jodie! dont worry about the guy! he is a neo nazi zionist that spews hatred and atempts to cover up the truth about Palestine, he will never offer proof or any rebutts in to the conflict! his only lousy weapon is accusing people of anti semetism and spamming ,as u see he cant rebutt the truth and the support of 191 nations for a free palestine..... but just accuse! it might be wise to block and boot him like he does on his groups when anyone says a bad word about israel and its brutal and racial occupation of non jews....again a
non voice for 2 yrs and now he is spamming with the same old song..

best regards jodie!

--- In, "Jodie" wrote:


What do you mean by "the others" ?? No, I certainly do not see Bret as a spammer.

(Taxi) Faruque is the owner of FAN, and I am moderator.

FAN is a group of members with diverse opinions and backgrounds. I choose to think of us as moderates... Surely there is a place for all of us on this earth .


--- In, "kreplach_oy" wrote:


I'm sorry you dont recognize Bretboudi as a spammer. Then What about
the others?

--- In, "Jodie" wrote:


I beg your pardon.... Bret Boudi is not a spammer. He has been a member of this group for several years. In the past he was welcomed as a friendly and active member.

I noticed that you have been a member for almost 2 years, but have not participated in group discussions. Why now ???

Jodie, moderator

--- In, "bretboudi" wrote:
No peace for Israel"

Whenever Israel has an election, pundits begin the usual refrain that hopes for peace depend on the "peace camp" – formerly represented by the Labour party, but now by Tzipi Livni's Kadima – prevailing over the anti-peace right, led by the Likud.

This has never been true, and makes even less sense as Israeli parties begin coalition talks after Tuesday's election. Yes, the "peace camp" helped launch the "peace process", but it did much more to undermine the chances for a just settlement.

In 1993, Labour prime minister Yitzhak Rabin signed the Oslo accords. Ambiguities in the agreement – which included no mention of "self-determination" or "independence" for Palestinians, or even "occupation" – made it easier to clinch a short-term deal. But
confrontation over irreconcilable expectations was inevitable. While Palestinians hoped the Palestinian Authority, created by the accord, would be the nucleus of an independent state, Israel viewed it as little more than a native police force to suppress resistance to
continued occupation and colonial settlement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Collaboration with Israel has always been the measure by which any Palestinian leader is judged to be a "peace partner". Rabin, according to Shlomo Ben-Ami, a former Israeli foreign minister, "never thought this [Oslo] will end in a full-fledged Palestinian state". He was right.

Throughout the "peace process", Israeli governments, regardless of who led them, expanded Jewish-only settlements in the heart of the West Bank, the territory supposed to form the bulk of the Palestinian state. In the 1990s, Ehud Barak's Labour-led government actually approved more settlement expansion than the Likud-led government that preceded it headed by Binyamin Netanyahu.

Barak, once considered "dovish", promoted a bloodthirsty image in the campaign, bolstered by the massacres of Gaza civilians he directed as defence minister. "Who has he ever shot?" Barak quipped derisively about Avigdor Lieberman, the leader of the proto-fascist Yisrael Beitenu party, in an attempt to paint the latter as a lightweight.

Today, Lieberman's party, which beat Labour into third place, will play a decisive role in a government. An immigrant who came to Israel from the former Soviet republic of Moldova, Lieberman was once a member of the outlawed racist party Kach that calls for expelling all Palestinians.

Yisrael Beitenu's manifesto was that 1.5 million Arab Palestinian citizens of Israel (indigenous survivors or descendants of the Palestinian majority ethnically cleansed in 1948) be subjected to a loyalty oath. If they don't swear allegiance to the "Jewish state"
they would lose their citizenship and be forced from the land of their birth, joining millions of already stateless Palestinians in exile or in Israeli-controlled ghettos. In a move instigated by Lieberman but supported by Livni's allegedly "centrist" Kadima, the
Knesset recently voted to ban Arab parties from participating in elections. Although the high court overturned it in time for the vote, it is an ominous sign of what may follow.

Lieberman, who previously served as deputy prime minister, has a long history of racist and violent incitement. Prior to Israel's recent attack, for example, he demanded Israel subject Palestinians to the brutal and indiscriminate violence Russia used in Chechyna. He also called for Arab Knesset members who met with officials from Hamas to be executed.

But it's too easy to make him the bogeyman. Israel's narrow political spectrum now consists at one end of the former "peace camp" that never halted the violent expropriation of Palestinian land for Jewish settlements and boasts with pride of the war crimes in Gaza, and at the other, a surging far-right whose "solutions" vary from apartheid
to outright ethnic cleansing.

What does not help is brazen western hypocrisy. Already the US state department spokesman affirmed that the Obama administration would work with whatever coalition emerged from Israel's "thriving democracy" and promised that the US would not interfere in Israel's "internal politics". Despite Barack Obama's sweet talk about a new relationship with the Arab world, few will fail to notice the brazen double standard. In 2006, Hamas won a democratic election in the occupied territories, observed numerous unilateral or agreed truces that were violated by Israel, offered Israel a generation-long truce to set the stage for peace, and yet it is still boycotted by the US and European Union.

Worse, the US sponsored a failed coup against Hamas and continues to arm and train the anti-Hamas militias of Mahmoud Abbas, whose term as Palestinian Authority president expired on 9 January. As soon as he took office, Obama reaffirmed this boycott of Palestinian democracy.

The clearest message from Israel's election is that no Zionist party can solve Israel's basic conundrum and no negotiations will lead to a two-state solution. Israel could only be created as a "Jewish state" by the forced removal of the non-Jewish majority Palestinian
population. As Palestinians once again become the majority in a country that has defied all attempts at partition, the only way to maintain Jewish control is through ever more brazen violence and repression of resistance (see Gaza). Whatever government emerges is certain to preside over more settlement-building, racial discrimination and escalating violence.

There are alternatives that have helped end what once seemed like equally intractable and bloody conflicts: a South African-style one-person one-vote democracy, or Northern Ireland-style power-sharing. Only under a democratic system according rights to all the people of the country will elections have the power to transform people's futures.

But Israel today is lurching into open fascism. It is utterly disingenuous to continue to pretend – as so many do – that its failed leaders hold the key to getting out of the morass. Instead of waiting for them to form a coalition, we must escalate the international civil society campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions to force Israelis to choose a saner path.